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+From:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com
+Subject:[frieNDA] Digest Number 2057
+Date:January 21, 2011 at 1:26:54 AM PST
+
+
+frieNDA(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMDdsMjhxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTI5NTYwMjAxMw--)
+Messages In This Digest (23 Messages)
+1a.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(#1a)From: Mark Stephen Meadows
+1b.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(#1b)From: Brian Wane
+1c.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(#1c)From: Chris Hecker
+1d.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(#1d)From: Elizabeth Goodman
+
+2a.
+Re: summer intern - know anyone?(#2a)From: Elizabeth Goodman
+
+3a.
+Apple Reboot(#3a)From: Souris Hong-Porretta
+3b.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3b)From: Daniel Terdiman
+3c.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3c)From: Wiley Wiggins
+3d.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3d)From: Wiley Wiggins
+3e.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3e)From: Wiley Wiggins
+3f.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3f)From: Rama Gottfried
+3g.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3g)From: Wiley Wiggins
+3h.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3h)From: L. Souris Hong-Porretta
+3i.
+Re: Apple Reboot(#3i)From: Daniel Terdiman
+
+4a.
+APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4a)From: Souris Hong-Porretta
+4b.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4b)From: Jeannette Harshbarger
+4c.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4c)From: L. Souris Hong-Porretta
+4d.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4d)From: David Jacobs
+4e.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4e)From: Jeannette Harshbarger
+4f.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4f)From: Jeannette Harshbarger
+4g.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4g)From: L. Souris Hong-Porretta
+4h.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(#4h)From: Kim Pallister
+
+5.
+Fw: [frieNDA] iphone apps(#5)From: Jeannette Harshbarger
+
+
+View All Topics(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJnc2ozYWU0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDYXRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0?xm=1&m=p&tidx=1)|Create New Topic(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJnZ2owNGJkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Messages
+1a.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20551;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbWw5bmJiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Mark Stephen Meadows"mark@markmeadows.com(mailto:mark@markmeadows.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20nda%20advice%20from%20frienda%3F)markstephenmeadows(http://profiles.yahoo.com/markstephenmeadows)
+Thu Jan20,2011 6:21am (PST)
+
+
+
+yeah, what mike said!
+
+an NDA is a bit of a class demarcation, like souris said (well,
+or didn't, kinda). and who wants to spend their time chasing a
+breached NDA, anyway? dirty lollipop syndrome!
+
+FrieNDA. Friend + NDA. personal + legal. it's a double-trust
+factor. but, really, in the real world, the friend part is far
+more important, more valuable, more interesting, and more
+enforceable. an NDA is just a patch-job for a reputation. i
+think someone else kinda said that, too.
+
+i've had dozens of m/NDAs signed in my day (at Construct, then
+Headcase / E&S), and i never felt really good about it. i've
+signed as many and none of them ever protected an idea i didn't
+already know about. in the end they're a waste of time.
+
+i like to think that a good idea is one that no one else on the
+planet could implement.
+
+
+
+Mike Kuniavsky wrote: I'm of the opinion that if someone I'm
+talking to is assuring me that they're totally trustworthy, then
+they should put a ring on it and sign the NDA without blinking.
+An NDA isn't a patent. It's just an agreement that says that the
+signer won't reveal what you told them to a potential
+competitor. That's it. You can put a time limit on it, say three
+months. Anyone, in any industry, should be able to keep from
+telling a competitor about your idea for THREE MONTHS. If they
+can't, or can't guarantee that, then they're probably not
+someone you should be talking to. Conversely, when someone says
+"I can't tell you anything about my idea until you sign an NDA,"
+I call bullshit on that, too. You can tell me something. You can
+tell me just about everything except for what your secret sauce
+is, and that'll get me close enough to knowing whether I even
+want to know what the secret sauce is. In either case, I say
+absolutes kill trust. They kill trust when someone says that
+they're not willing to meet you even an inch of the way (aka
+sign a simple NDA) and they kill when someone says that they
+can't trust you at all until they have an iron clad guarantee of
+confidentiality (which an NDA isn't, so that's bullshit, too).
+Finally, I have never heard of someone being sued for breach of
+NDA. It's just not important enough in the larger scheme of
+things. It IS important, however, as a small trust-building step
+at the right point in a discussion. On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Kim
+Pallister wrote: VC's are in this camp too. Sent
+from my SpacePhone On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:46 PM, "L. Souris
+Hong-Porretta"<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>
+<mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>wrote: Depending
+on who you are talking to, they might not sign an NDA at all. I
+know that when we had our game studio, the publishers would
+not sign NDAs to talk to us. This happens in a lot of creative
+studios here in Hollywood too. I also know that at EMV we NEVER
+or well, RARELY signed NDAs. Our job is to listen to
+pitches ALL DAY LONG and I can tell you that 99 out of 100 times
+we were being pitched something that was related-to or an
+iteration of something else we'd heard before. We didn't
+sign NDAs as standard practice, bc we didn't need TOM, DICK, or
+KYOUNG coming back to sue us if we moved forward with one
+of the companies and they decided we "stole" their idea. We also
+relied on our reputations so it wasn't in our interest to
+tell everyone about everything we ever heard. Everybody knows
+I'm a fucking big mouth, but everyone also knows, your
+abortion-serious-secret is safe with me. It really depends on
+what the project is and whom you're discussing it with. My two
+cents. xosourisxo On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Kyoung Kim
+wrote: hi frienda, was wondering in your practices, when do
+you think is the "right" time to present an nda (in approaching
+developers, contractors, investors, etc.).? may seem like a dumb
+question, but well, you know. thanks, kyoung **** souris
+hong-porretta 3101 5th street #5 santa monica, ca 90405
+310.500.7870 mobilesouris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)
+<mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>www.hustlerofculture.com
+<http://www.hustlerofculture.com>@hustlerculture
+tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)<mailto:tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)>
+www.tinyironfists.com<http://www.tinyironfists.com>
+@tinyironfists ****
+--http://markmeadows.com<http://markmeadows.com>
+Back to top(#toc)
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+Messages in this topic(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20484;_ylc=X3oDMTM4b3M3bzJlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0BHRwY0lkAzIwNDg0)(24)
+1b.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20552;_ylc=X3oDMTJzYms3dHZnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Brian Wane"bpwane@smerc.com(mailto:bpwane@smerc.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20nda%20advice%20from%20frienda%3F)bpwane2(http://profiles.yahoo.com/bpwane2)
+Thu Jan20,2011 7:41am (PST)
+
+
+On 1/19/2011 7:13 PM, christian svanes kolding wrote:
+>
+>it should also be added that NDA or no NDA, if you think someone stole
+>your idea, you'd better be serious about it and understand that, right
+>or wrong, there will be consequences.
+>
+>no one in any of the creative industries likes to be accused of
+>stealing. thus, i would imagine that in 99% of the cases, people would
+>rather avoid having anything to do with someone who starts pointing
+>fingers - even if the accuser is justified.
+>
+We have our ideas taken all the time after an NDA is signed, usually at
+the request of the other party. It isn't worth pursuing. Bringing it up
+means that relationship is over. You may ask, well, if they took your
+idea or part of it then why would you work with them again? To which I
+respond- they like your ideas and will probably fund one in the future.
+This has been my experience at least.
+
+Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags unite!
+
+>
+
+--
+
+*Brian Wane*
+CEO
+
+SMERC
+Web: smerc.com<http://www.smerc.com/>
+Email:bpwane@smerc.com(mailto:bpwane%40smerc.com)<mailto:bpwane@smerc.com(mailto:bpwane%40smerc.com)>
+Phone: (718) 486-0002
+
+Keep a look out for our new game Hercules: Curse of the Hydra
+<http://hercules.smercgame.com/>on iPhone, iPad and Android devices
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+Messages in this topic(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20484;_ylc=X3oDMTM4Ymo4ZnVqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0BHRwY0lkAzIwNDg0)(24)
+1c.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20553;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbjJsbWVpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Chris Hecker"checker@d6.com(mailto:checker@d6.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20nda%20advice%20from%20frienda%3F)
+Thu Jan20,2011 11:59am (PST)
+
+
+
+>Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags
+>unite!
+
+Don't worry, you guys massively outnumber us!
+
+Chris
+
+On 2011/01/20 07:41, Brian Wane wrote:
+>On 1/19/2011 7:13 PM, christian svanes kolding wrote:
+>
+>>it should also be added that NDA or no NDA, if you think someone stole
+>>your idea, you'd better be serious about it and understand that, right
+>>or wrong, there will be consequences.
+>>
+>>no one in any of the creative industries likes to be accused of
+>>stealing. thus, i would imagine that in 99% of the cases, people would
+>>rather avoid having anything to do with someone who starts pointing
+>>fingers - even if the accuser is justified.
+>>
+>We have our ideas taken all the time after an NDA is signed, usually at
+>the request of the other party. It isn't worth pursuing. Bringing it up
+>means that relationship is over. You may ask, well, if they took your
+>idea or part of it then why would you work with them again? To which I
+>respond- they like your ideas and will probably fund one in the future.
+>This has been my experience at least.
+>
+>Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags unite!
+>
+>
+>
+>--
+>
+>*Brian Wane*
+>CEO
+>
+>SMERC
+>Web: smerc.com<http://www.smerc.com/>
+>Email:bpwane@smerc.com(mailto:bpwane%40smerc.com)<mailto:bpwane@smerc.com(mailto:bpwane%40smerc.com)>
+>Phone: (718) 486-0002
+>
+>Keep a look out for our new game Hercules: Curse of the Hydra
+><http://hercules.smercgame.com/>on iPhone, iPad and Android devices
+>
+>
+
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+1d.
+Re: nda advice from frienda?(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20555;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdW1mdTVrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Elizabeth Goodman"egoodman@confectious.net(mailto:egoodman@confectious.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20nda%20advice%20from%20frienda%3F)esg224(http://profiles.yahoo.com/esg224)
+Thu Jan20,2011 12:45pm (PST)
+
+
+I get asked to sign NDAs all the time before people consent to be
+interviewed for my (totally academic, not gonna be published for
+a year) dissertation. I see it as essentially an ass-covering
+move.
+
+On the one hand, I don't take them all that seriously. Because,
+as Mike says, no one ever gets sued for breach of NDA.
+Instead, the NDA for my interviewees is a way for mid-level
+creatives to protect themselves against any kind of douchey
+retaliation by their companies' legal departments. Or a way
+for principals, partners, or C-level people to let me know
+that they're personally okay with giving me sensitive
+information about clients or vendors, but that it matters to
+their companies. Because, really, there are two outcomes if I
+violate the NDA: (1) no one will ever find out it was me,
+because anything people are willing to tell me in a casual
+interview is something that's already common knowledge among
+tens, if not hundreds of other potentially indiscreet
+blabbers or (2) I'll gain a reputation for being
+untrustworthy and people will stop giving me sensitive info.
+
+On the other hand, I take them very seriously. NDAs are just a
+way to confirm that you, the signer, are outside an
+organizational boundary, and that you are getting privileged
+access to something that would usually stay within that
+boundary. Verbal or paper-based requests have about the same
+level of importance in terms of signalling one's
+expectations. You could argue (and I would, when I'm being
+all academic) that it is the NDA that makes the
+organizational boundary, not the other way around. So it's
+important for me to know that the person I'm talking to wants
+to erect some boundaries.
+
+But then, I'm not in the game industry. Or in marketing. Or in
+entertainment. I do interactive product and service design and
+strategy. As Mike suggests, different industries have really
+different assumptions about the relationship between
+organizations and information sharing. Some industries,
+looking at the responses on this list, use NDAs (or "keep a
+secret" language) to create stricter boundary lines than
+others.
+
+Liz
+
+On 1/19/11 4:54 PM, Mike Kuniavsky wrote:
+I'm of the opinion that if someone I'm talking to is
+assuring me that
+they're totally trustworthy, then they should put a ring
+on it and sign
+the NDA without blinking. An NDA isn't a patent. It's just
+an agreement
+that says that the signer won't reveal what you told them
+to a potential
+competitor. That's it. You can put a time limit on it, say
+three months.
+Anyone, in any industry, should be able to keep from
+telling a competitor
+about your idea for THREE MONTHS. If they can't, or can't
+guarantee that,
+then they're probably not someone you should be talking
+to.
+
+Conversely, when someone says "I can't tell you anything
+about my
+idea until you sign an NDA," I call bullshit on that, too.
+You can tell me
+something. You can tell me just about everything except
+for what your
+secret sauce is, and that'll get me close enough to
+knowing whether I even
+want to know what the secret sauce is.
+
+In either case, I say absolutes kill trust. They kill
+trust when someone
+says that they're not willing to meet you even an inch of
+the way (aka
+sign a simple NDA) and they kill when someone says that
+they can't trust
+you at all until they have an iron clad guarantee of
+confidentiality
+(which an NDA isn't, so that's bullshit, too).
+
+Finally, I have never heard of someone being sued for
+breach of NDA. It's
+just not important enough in the larger scheme of things.
+It IS important,
+however, as a small trust-building step at the right point
+in a
+discussion.
+
+On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Kim Pallister wrote:
+
+>
+>
+>VC's are in this camp too.
+>
+>Sent from my SpacePhone
+>
+>On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:46 PM, "L. Souris
+Hong-Porretta"<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)
+<mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com>>wrote:
+>
+>
+>
+>Depending on who you are talking to, they might not
+sign an NDA at all. I know that when we had our
+>game studio, the publishers would not sign NDAs to
+talk to us. This happens in a lot of creative
+>studios here in Hollywood too. I also know that at
+EMV we NEVER or well, RARELY signed NDAs. Our job
+>is to listen to pitches ALL DAY LONG and I can tell
+you that 99 out of 100 times we were being
+>pitched something that was related-to or an iteration
+of something else we'd heard before. We didn't
+>sign NDAs as standard practice, bc we didn't need
+TOM, DICK, or KYOUNG coming back to sue us if we
+>moved forward with one of the companies and they
+decided we "stole" their idea. We also relied on our
+>reputations so it wasn't in our interest to tell
+everyone about everything we ever heard.
+>
+>
+>Everybody knows I'm a fucking big mouth, but everyone
+also knows, your abortion-serious-secret is safe with
+>me.
+>
+>It really depends on what the project is and whom
+you're discussing it with.
+>
+>My two cents.
+>
+>xosourisxo
+>
+>
+>On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Kyoung Kim wrote:
+>
+>
+>
+>hi frienda,
+>
+>was wondering in your practices, when do you think is
+the "right" time to present an nda (in approaching
+>developers, contractors, investors, etc.).?
+>may seem like a dumb question, but well, you know.
+>
+>thanks,
+>kyoung
+>
+>
+>
+>****
+>
+>souris hong-porretta
+>3101 5th street #5
+>santa monica, ca 90405
+>
+>310.500.7870 mobile
+>
+>souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)
+<mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com>
+>www.hustlerofculture.com<http://www.hustlerofculture.com>
+>@hustlerculture
+>
+>tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)<mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com>
+>www.tinyironfists.com<http://www.tinyironfists.com>
+>@tinyironfists
+>
+>****
+>
+>
+>
+>
+>
+>
+
+--
+Mike Kuniavsky
+mikek@orangecone.com(mailto:mikek%40orangecone.com)<mailto:mikek%40orangecone.com>
+
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+2a.
+Re: summer intern - know anyone?(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20554;_ylc=X3oDMTJzN2xnZXU1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Elizabeth Goodman"egoodman@confectious.net(mailto:egoodman@confectious.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20summer%20intern%20-%20know%20anyone%3F)esg224(http://profiles.yahoo.com/esg224)
+Thu Jan20,2011 12:12pm (PST)
+
+
+I saw this job posting at Berkeley, actually. Are you going to be
+actively working with the intern? If you are, I will forward it
+around even more widely to students (like at CCA) who do great UX
+work but aren't, ummm, the traditional Qualcomm hires.
+
+L.
+
+On 1/19/11 4:32 PM, jeeparksf wrote:
+hi all,
+
+my company is hiring a summer intern and i thought this
+group may know of some good peeps. it's user experience
+focused. i've already sent it out to uc berkeley,
+stanford, and iit, but pls forward it as you see fit.
+
+https://jobs.qualcomm.com/public/jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=1\
+884530&page=jobSearch(https://jobs.qualcomm.com/public/jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=1884530&page=jobSearch)
+<https://jobs.qualcomm.com/public/jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=\
+1884530&page=jobSearch(https://jobs.qualcomm.com/public/jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=1884530&page=jobSearch)>
+
+thanks,
+jee
+
+
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+3a.
+Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20556;_ylc=X3oDMTJzcmFxZ2t0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Souris Hong-Porretta"souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)souris_hong(http://profiles.yahoo.com/souris_hong)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:02pm (PST)
+
+
+While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a
+message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing down
+the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
+
+Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or
+error message before (THANKS)!
+
+This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
+
+Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
+Panics Since Last Report: 1
+Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
+
+Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
+panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
+14=page fault, registers:
+CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
+EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
+CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
+EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
+Error code: 0x00000000
+
+Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
+0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
+0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
+0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
+0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
+0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
+0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)
+0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
+0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
+0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
+0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
+No mapping exists for frame pointer
+Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
+Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
+com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x56dbbfff
+
+BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
+
+Mac OS version:
+9L31a
+
+Kernel version:
+Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
+root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
+System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
+
+System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
+unloaded kexts:
+com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003265393829
+loaded kexts:
+com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
+com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 91933949995842
+com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
+com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
+com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
+com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
+com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
+com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
+com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
+com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
+com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
+com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
+com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
+com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
+com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
+com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
+com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
+com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
+com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
+com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
+com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
+com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
+com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
+com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
+com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
+com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
+com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
+com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
+com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
+com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
+com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
+com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
+com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
+com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
+com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
+com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
+com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
+com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
+com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
+com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
+com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
+com.apple.BootCache 30.4
+com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
+com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
+com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
+com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
+com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
+com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
+com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
+com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
+com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
+com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
+com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
+com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
+com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
+com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
+com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
+com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
+com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
+com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
+com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
+com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
+com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
+com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
+com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
+com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
+com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
+com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
+com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
+com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
+com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
+
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+3b.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20557;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdGNpbHQxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Daniel Terdiman"daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net(mailto:daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)jschooldan(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jschooldan)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:10pm (PST)
+
+
+Assuming that you're all backed up, I wouldn't worry about it.
+Occasionally, Macs will do the old bombshell crash. They usually recover.
+
+Once you're back up and running, you might want to consider repairing
+disk permissions (that's always a good thing to do, anyway). You do that
+by going into your Applications folder, then choosing Utilities, then
+choosing Disk Utility, and then Repair permissions.
+
+I think you'll be fine. Hopefully, you're properly backed up.
+
+Daniel
+
+On 1/20/11 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
+>
+>While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a
+>message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing down
+>the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
+>
+>Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or
+>error message before (THANKS)!
+>
+>This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
+>
+>Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
+>Panics Since Last Report: 1
+>Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
+>
+>Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
+>panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
+>14=page fault, registers:
+>CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
+>EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
+>CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
+>EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
+>Error code: 0x00000000
+>
+>Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
+>0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
+>0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
+>0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
+>0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
+>0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
+>0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)
+>0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
+>0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
+>0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
+>0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
+>No mapping exists for frame pointer
+>Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
+>Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
+>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x56dbbfff
+>
+>BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
+>
+>Mac OS version:
+>9L31a
+>
+>Kernel version:
+>Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
+>root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
+>System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
+>
+>System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
+>unloaded kexts:
+>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003265393829
+>loaded kexts:
+>com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
+>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 91933949995842
+>com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
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+>com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
+>com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
+>com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
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+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
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+>com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
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+>com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
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+>com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
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+>com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
+>com.apple.BootCache 30.4
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
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+>com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
+>com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
+>com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
+>com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
+>
+>
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+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20558;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMWNuY3Y2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Wiley Wiggins"weevil@wileywiggins.com(mailto:weevil@wileywiggins.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)wiley_wiggins(http://profiles.yahoo.com/wiley_wiggins)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:21pm (PST)
+
+
+You had a Kernel Panic. It can be caused by hardware or by the System, but rarely by an App.
+Disk permissions resets are meaningless unless you are having an actual permissions issue. Same with the voodoo 'Pram Zap'.
+Either run -fsck n your drive in single user mode, or boot from your OS disc and run the actual disc repair, which looks at the file structure.
+Unless it happens again you are probably fine.
+
+(Sorry, Ex Applecare agent).
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Daniel Terdiman wrote:
+
+>Assuming that you're all backed up, I wouldn't worry about it. Occasionally, Macs will do the old bombshell crash. They usually recover.
+>
+>Once you're back up and running, you might want to consider repairing disk permissions (that's always a good thing to do, anyway). You do that by going into your Applications folder, then choosing Utilities, then choosing Disk Utility, and then Repair permissions.
+>
+>I think you'll be fine. Hopefully, you're properly backed up.
+>
+>Daniel
+>
+>On 1/20/11 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
+>
+>>
+>>While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a
+>>message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing down
+>>the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
+>>
+>>Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or
+>>error message before (THANKS)!
+>>
+>>This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
+>>
+>>Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
+>>Panics Since Last Report: 1
+>>Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
+>>
+>>Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
+>>panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
+>>14=page fault, registers:
+>>CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
+>>EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
+>>CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
+>>EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
+>>Error code: 0x00000000
+>>
+>>Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
+>>0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
+>>0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
+>>0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
+>>0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
+>>0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
+>>0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)
+>>0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
+>>0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>>0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>>0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
+>>0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>>0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>>0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
+>>0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
+>>No mapping exists for frame pointer
+>>Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
+>>Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
+>>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x56dbbfff
+>>
+>>BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
+>>
+>>Mac OS version:
+>>9L31a
+>>
+>>Kernel version:
+>>Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
+>>root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
+>>System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
+>>
+>>System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
+>>unloaded kexts:
+>>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003265393829
+>>loaded kexts:
+>>com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
+>>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 91933949995842
+>>com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
+>>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
+>>com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
+>>com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
+>>com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
+>>com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
+>>com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
+>>com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
+>>com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
+>>com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
+>>com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
+>>com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
+>>com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
+>>com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
+>>com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
+>>com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
+>>com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
+>>com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
+>>com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
+>>com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
+>>com.apple.BootCache 30.4
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
+>>com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
+>>com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
+>>com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
+>>com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
+>>com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
+>>com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
+>>com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
+>>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
+>>com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
+>>
+>
+>
+
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+3d.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20559;_ylc=X3oDMTJzM2xrbWdwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU1OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Wiley Wiggins"weevil@wileywiggins.com(mailto:weevil@wileywiggins.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)wiley_wiggins(http://profiles.yahoo.com/wiley_wiggins)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:23pm (PST)
+
+
+How to run disc repair:
+
+http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1782
+
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+3e.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20560;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMjFzN25yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Wiley Wiggins"weevil@wileywiggins.com(mailto:weevil@wileywiggins.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)wiley_wiggins(http://profiles.yahoo.com/wiley_wiggins)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:24pm (PST)
+
+
+Sorry, I meant this one:
+
+http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1417
+
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+3f.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20561;_ylc=X3oDMTJzYTRhaDg3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Rama Gottfried"rama.gottfried@gmail.com(mailto:rama.gottfried@gmail.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)ramagottfried(http://profiles.yahoo.com/ramagottfried)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:25pm (PST)
+
+
+that's a kernel panic - i've been seeing that regularly working with the adruino FTDI drivers in maxMSP. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you had some unsaved important documents open.
+
+I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
+
+>While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a
+>message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing down
+>the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
+>
+>Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or
+>error message before (THANKS)!
+>
+>This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
+>
+>Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
+>Panics Since Last Report: 1
+>Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
+>
+>Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
+>panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
+>14=page fault, registers:
+>CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
+>EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
+>CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
+>EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
+>Error code: 0x00000000
+>
+>Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
+>0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
+>0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
+>0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
+>0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
+>0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
+>0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)
+>0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
+>0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
+>0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
+>0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
+>0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
+>0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
+>No mapping exists for frame pointer
+>Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
+>Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
+>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x56dbbfff
+>
+>BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
+>
+>Mac OS version:
+>9L31a
+>
+>Kernel version:
+>Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
+>root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
+>System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
+>
+>System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
+>unloaded kexts:
+>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003265393829
+>loaded kexts:
+>com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
+>com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 91933949995842
+>com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
+>com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
+>com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
+>com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
+>com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
+>com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
+>com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
+>com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
+>com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
+>com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
+>com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
+>com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
+>com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
+>com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
+>com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
+>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
+>com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
+>com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
+>com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
+>com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
+>com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
+>com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
+>com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
+>com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
+>com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
+>com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
+>com.apple.BootCache 30.4
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
+>com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
+>com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
+>com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
+>com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
+>com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
+>com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
+>com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
+>com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
+>com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
+>com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
+>com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
+>com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
+>com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
+>com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
+>com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
+>com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
+>com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
+>
+>
+
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+3g.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20562;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbGticjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Wiley Wiggins"weevil@wileywiggins.com(mailto:weevil@wileywiggins.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)wiley_wiggins(http://profiles.yahoo.com/wiley_wiggins)
+Thu Jan20,2011 3:27pm (PST)
+
+
+Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work with a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used FTDI. I'm glad Arduino is getting away from it.
+
+>I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).
+
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+3h.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20563;_ylc=X3oDMTJzOGRtMHY0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "L. Souris Hong-Porretta"souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)souris_hong(http://profiles.yahoo.com/souris_hong)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:21pm (PST)
+
+
+Thanks SO MUCH, dudes.
+
+D, I followed your instructions and everything looks OK. THANK YOU for
+spelling it all out, cause I'm a fucking numbnut these days and can't
+find shit anywhere on this Apple computer (like find your so-and-so-
+utility-so-and-so).
+
+I have everything backed up on two external hard drives now (thanks
+Julian, Neb, and DJ)! That said, I didn't lose any work.
+
+THANKS, again.
+
+xosourisxo
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Wiley Wiggins wrote:
+
+Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work
+with a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used
+FTDI. I'm glad Arduino is getting away from it.
+
+>I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port
+>and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update
+>your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but
+>yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin
+>is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).
+
+****
+
+souris hong-porretta
+3101 5th street #5
+santa monica, ca 90405
+
+310.500.7870 mobile
+
+souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)
+www.hustlerofculture.com
+@hustlerculture
+
+tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)
+www.tinyironfists.com
+@tinyironfists
+
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+3i.
+Re: Apple Reboot(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20567;_ylc=X3oDMTJzazlrc2FhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Daniel Terdiman"daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net(mailto:daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Apple%20Reboot)jschooldan(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jschooldan)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:35pm (PST)
+
+
+As Wiley pointed out, the repair disk permissions thing almost certainly
+didn't help with this particular situation. But it's always good to run
+that once in awhile anyway.
+
+Glad things are looking better now.
+
+D
+
+On 1/20/11 4:21 PM, L. Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
+>
+>Thanks SO MUCH, dudes.
+>
+>
+>D, I followed your instructions and everything looks OK. THANK YOU for
+>spelling it all out, cause I'm a fucking numbnut these days and can't
+>find shit anywhere on this Apple computer (like find your
+>so-and-so-utility-so-and-so).
+>
+>I have everything backed up on two external hard drives now (thanks
+>Julian, Neb, and DJ)! That said, I didn't lose any work.
+>
+>THANKS, again.
+>
+>xosourisxo
+>
+>
+>On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Wiley Wiggins wrote:
+>
+>
+>
+>Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work
+>with a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used
+>FTDI. I'm glad Arduino is getting away from it.
+>
+>>I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port
+>>and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update
+>>your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but
+>>yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin
+>>is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).
+>
+>
+>
+>
+>****
+>
+>souris hong-porretta
+>3101 5th street #5
+>santa monica, ca 90405
+>
+>310.500.7870 mobile
+>
+>souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)<mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>
+>www.hustlerofculture.com<http://www.hustlerofculture.com>
+>@hustlerculture
+>
+>tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)<mailto:tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)>
+>www.tinyironfists.com<http://www.tinyironfists.com>
+>@tinyironfists
+>
+>****
+>
+>
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+4a.
+APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20564;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZDdycmlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Souris Hong-Porretta"souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)souris_hong(http://profiles.yahoo.com/souris_hong)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:26pm (PST)
+
+
+Welcome to 2007, my friends!
+
+DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to
+check out everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT,
+when I went to access the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for
+APPLE APPS, as many times as I know others have inquired about it.
+Normally, I'd go through ALL MY FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the
+answers, but with the recent crash of the server I was hosted on, I
+ended up losing thousands of my emails (I also deleted my apple
+account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages so this really
+screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.
+
+WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can
+you send me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the
+MISCELLANEOUS folder.
+
+Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT
+(greatest of all time frieNDA posts). Is it true that we only have ONE
+POST that qualifies for GOAT status?!
+
+THANKS in advance!
+
+xosourisxo
+
+****
+
+souris hong-porretta
+3101 5th street #5
+santa monica, ca 90405
+
+310.500.7870 mobile
+
+souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)
+www.hustlerofculture.com
+@hustlerculture
+
+tinyironfists@gmail.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.com)
+www.tinyironfists.com
+@tinyironfists
+
+****
+
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+4b.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20565;_ylc=X3oDMTJzNzlrYmdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Jeannette Harshbarger"jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)jeannetteagogo(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeannetteagogo)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:31pm (PST)
+
+
+Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT folder?
+
+--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Souris Hong-Porretta<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>wrote:
+
+From: Souris Hong-Porretta<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>
+Subject: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com(mailto:frieNDA%40yahoogroups.com)
+Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 4:26 PM
+
+
+
+Welcome to 2007, my friends!
+DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to check out everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT, when I went to access the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for APPLE APPS, as many times as I know others have inquired about it. Normally, I'd go through ALL MY FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the answers, but with the recent crash of the server I was hosted on, I ended up losing thousands of my emails (I also deleted my apple account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages so this really screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.
+WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can you send me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the MISCELLANEOUS folder.
+Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT (greatest of all time frieNDA posts). Is it true that we only have ONE POST that qualifies for GOAT status?!
+THANKS in advance!
+xosourisxo
+
+****
+souris hong-porretta3101 5th street #5santa monica, ca 90405
+310.500.7870 mobile
+souris@hustlerofculture.comwww.hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.comwww.hustlerofculture.com)@hustlerculture
+tinyironfists@gmail.comwww.tinyironfists.com(mailto:tinyironfists%40gmail.comwww.tinyironfists.com)@tinyironfists
+****
+
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+4c.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20566;_ylc=X3oDMTJza25vaWFjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "L. Souris Hong-Porretta"souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)souris_hong(http://profiles.yahoo.com/souris_hong)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:34pm (PST)
+
+
+Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a
+HIGHLANDER deal?!
+
+And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube
+for that eye socket thingamagiggy.
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
+
+Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT
+folder?
+
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+4d.
+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20568;_ylc=X3oDMTJzM2RvcnVoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU2OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "David Jacobs"djacobs@gmail.com(mailto:djacobs@gmail.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)pdx_davidj(http://profiles.yahoo.com/pdx_davidj)
+Thu Jan20,2011 4:44pm (PST)
+
+
+"Or is it a HIGHLANDER deal?!"
+
+I just think there's nothing close yet. And I read most of the mails (not
+this NDA thread, though).
+
+David
+
+On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:34 PM, L. Souris Hong-Porretta<
+souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>wrote:
+
+>
+>
+>Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a
+>HIGHLANDER deal?!
+>
+>And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube for
+>that eye socket thingamagiggy.
+>
+>
+>
+>On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
+>
+>
+>
+>Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT folder?
+>
+>
+>
+>
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+Posted by: "Jeannette Harshbarger"jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)jeannetteagogo(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeannetteagogo)
+Thu Jan20,2011 7:44pm (PST)
+
+
+Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER PERSON when he got his iPhone.
+
+Here are the ones I use the most:
+
+YELP - Yeah, you can type in "tamales" or "nail salon" or "book store" or "coffee" and hit the "close to my location" button...which will pull up a list and then allow you to click a button which will bring up a map with directions to the business.I use this ALL the time.
+
+SHAZAM - Listens to songs and tells you what they are.You can only ask for 5 songs a month unless you pay to upgrade ($3.99 i think... I paid).
+
+NIKE+
+GPS - You don't even need the Nike pod thingee for your shoes or the fancy Nike shoes to use this app.It tells you how fast you go, it maps your route and uploads your stats to Nike.com so that you can see how far you've run / power walked in a week/month/year.
+THE BEST thing about it is that Tracy Jordan roots for me by saying "that's my GURL!" and other fun things when I'm done.You can also sync with FB and when someone gives you a thumbs up or comments while you're running it CHEERS over your music.Who likes to run?Not me.Who likes to run when it's made fun?I guess me.
+
+WORDS WITH FRIENDS:
+Scrabble with strangers or your friends... play at your leisure... you can play like 15 game simultaneously too, I think.
+
+INSTAGRAM:
+It's like flickr with dumb hipstamatic type processing and you can "share" a photo which posts it in a stream that everyone that's following you can see.A bunch of us are on it.To quote Jason - "Hey Instagram... CAT PHOTO, CAT PHOTO, CAT PHOTO.... How do YOU like it?"I keep looking for cats to photograph to share with Jason, but I don't ever see any....
+
+FB
+It's nice to just look at / post / and get notified of FB activity on a phone app without having to log onto a computer.
+
+KAYAK
+Research travel on the go
+
+INCEPTION:
+Fun...creepy....fun and creepy.You'll need headphones with a built in microphone tho...
+
+REDBOX:
+I can reserve a $1 movie from my neighborhood kiosk (the 7-11 around the corner) and pick it up later before it runs out.Popular titles run out sometimes.When you just don't want to wait for damned Netflix to come in the mail.
+
+AIM:
+You know when you IM me sometimes and I'm slow in responding?I'm using the mobile version of IM and am texting with one finger.
+
+MOONPHASE:
+Cuz I like to know the phase of the moon...
+
+FARECOMPARE
+Also for travel.Sends you alerts when a price drops or goes up on your watch list.Self explanatory, really.
+
+EBAY:
+As if I don't have enough of a problem with Ebay...
+
+TWEETDECK
+Lets you follow your stream, has @replies in a sep column, DMs in another column and any lists you may follow in OTHER columns.Good if you're searching for a certain keyword too (like #bedbugs )
+
+TRIP ADVISOR
+Mobile app - same as site
+
+--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Souris Hong-Porretta<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>wrote:
+
+From: Souris Hong-Porretta<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>
+Subject: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com(mailto:frieNDA%40yahoogroups.com)
+Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 4:26
+PM
+
+
+
+Welcome to 2007, my friends!
+DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to check out everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT, when I went to access the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for APPLE APPS, as many times as I know others have inquired about it. Normally, I'd go through ALL MY FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the answers, but with the recent crash of the server I was hosted on, I ended up losing thousands of my emails (I also deleted my apple account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages so this really screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.
+WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can you send me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the MISCELLANEOUS folder.
+Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT (greatest of all time frieNDA
+posts). Is it true that we only have ONE POST that qualifies for GOAT status?!
+THANKS in advance!
+xosourisxo
+
+****
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+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20571;_ylc=X3oDMTJzN2Vnc2x2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU3MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Jeannette Harshbarger"jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)jeannetteagogo(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeannetteagogo)
+Thu Jan20,2011 7:48pm (PST)
+
+
+http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/14301
+
+--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jeannette Harshbarger<jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo%40yahoo.com)>wrote:
+
+From: Jeannette Harshbarger<jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo%40yahoo.com)>
+Subject: Re: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com(mailto:frieNDA%40yahoogroups.com)
+Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:44 PM
+
+
+
+Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER PERSON when he got his iPhone.
+
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+Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20572;_ylc=X3oDMTJzYmU4dmMzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU3MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "L. Souris Hong-Porretta"souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris@hustlerofculture.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)souris_hong(http://profiles.yahoo.com/souris_hong)
+Thu Jan20,2011 8:07pm (PST)
+
+
+awesome thanks! that didn't pull up in YAHOO SEARCH for me (that thing
+fucking sucks)!
+
+Christina... tsk. tsk. TSK!
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
+
+http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/14301
+
+--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jeannette Harshbarger<jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo%40yahoo.com)>
+wrote:
+
+From: Jeannette Harshbarger<jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo%40yahoo.com)>
+Subject: Re: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com(mailto:frieNDA%40yahoogroups.com)
+Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:44 PM
+
+Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER
+PERSON when he got his iPhone.
+
+****
+
+souris hong-porretta
+3101 5th street #5
+santa monica, ca 90405
+
+310.500.7870 mobile
+
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+Posted by: "Kim Pallister"kim_pallister@hotmail.com(mailto:kim_pallister@hotmail.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20APPLE%20APPS%20and%20GOATS)kpallist2(http://profiles.yahoo.com/kpallist2)
+Thu Jan20,2011 8:08pm (PST)
+
+
+Reeder + Instapaper FT*MF*W! Though I use both 90% of the time on ipad. Still nice to have both on ipad&iPhone.
+
+I like the Chase photo-check deposit app.
+
+Shazam, pandora, snaptell, wikiamo, Netflix all get used a lot
+
+Sent from my SpacePhone
+
+On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:34 PM, "L. Souris Hong-Porretta"<souris@hustlerofculture.com(mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com)>wrote:
+
+>Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a HIGHLANDER deal?!
+>
+>
+>And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube for that eye socket thingamagiggy.
+>
+>
+>
+>On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
+>
+>
+>
+>Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT folder?
+>
+>
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+Fw: [frieNDA] iphone apps(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/20570;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZDYycTU5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4ODY5MjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzIxOTE2OARtc2dJZAMyMDU3MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjk1NjAyMDE0)
+Posted by: "Jeannette Harshbarger"jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com(mailto:jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fw%3A%20%5BfrieNDA%5D%20iphone%20apps)jeannetteagogo(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeannetteagogo)
+Thu Jan20,2011 7:46pm (PST)
+
+
+Maybe you can follow the entire string of answers from the link at the bottom of this email...
+
+--- On Sat, 1/23/10, christian svanes kolding<christian@farmfreshfilms.com(mailto:christian%40farmfreshfilms.com)>wrote:
+
+From: christian svanes kolding<christian@farmfreshfilms.com(mailto:christian%40farmfreshfilms.com)>
+Subject: [frieNDA] iphone apps
+To:frieNDA@yahoogroups.com(mailto:frieNDA%40yahoogroups.com)
+Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:54 AM
+
+
+
+esteemed members of the board, now that we've upgraded to the iphone, i present you with the time-honoured questions:
+
+what is your favourite iphone app? and why is it your favourite?
+
+please limit your response to only one app.
+
+thank you.
+
+humbly submitted,
+
+csk
+
+. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
+
+christian svanes kolding
+
+christian@christian svaneskolding. com
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