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+### Please describe the problem.
+
+I am having trouble using the webapp with a setup I did on the commandline that was working fine.
+
+I have two machines: one, a server called `marcos`, is available on the internetz and I cloned a repo from there into `markov`, a workstation that is hidden behind a NAT connexion (so I can't add it as a remote).
+
+It seems that because the remote is not locally available as a git remote, the webapp is freaking out because it doesn't recognize `markov` as a proper remote.
+
+### What steps will reproduce the problem?
+
+1. setup git annex locally (on `marcos`) in a repository (probably `git annex init; git annex direct; git annex add .` i somewhat followed [[tips/Git_annex_and_Calibre/]])
+2. `git clone` that repo on a remote, unaccessible (NAT'd) server (`markov`)
+3. start doing some git annex get, get tired, run the web app on `markov`
+4. let that run over there, go back to `marcos`
+5. be curious about what is going on on `markov`, run the webapp and enter the path to the repository created in step one when prompted (it's the first time i run the webapp)
+6. it starts up fine, but doesn't seem to detect `markov`, marking transfers as going to the remote named `unknown`
+7. click on the `unknown` link, crash
+8. go back to the dashboard, crash
+
+From there on, the webapp is pretty much crashed, starting it from scratch asks me if i want to create a git annex repo.
+
+### What version of git-annex are you using? On what operating system?
+
+4.20130921-gd4739c5 compiled and installed by hand on debian wheezy.
+
+### Please provide any additional information below.
+
+[[!format sh """
+# Here's everything that has been logged by the git-annex assistant, as well as by programs it has run.
+
+[2013-11-04 22:42:50 EST] main: starting assistant version 4.20130921-gd4739c5
+(merging synced/git-annex into git-annex...)
+(Recording state in git...)
+
+ No known network monitor available through dbus; falling back to polling
+Already up-to-date.
+
+(scanning...) [2013-11-04 22:42:50 EST] Watcher: Performing startup scan
+04/Nov/2013:22:42:51 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:42:52 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:42:52 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+(Recording state in git...)
+(Recording state in git...)
+(started...)
+
+ metadata.db still has writers, not adding
+[2013-11-04 22:42:59 EST] Committer: Adding cover.jpg Ars Techn..ibre.epub Cyberpres..ibre.epub cover.jpg cover.jpg Ars Techn..ibre.epub cover.jpg Democracy..ibre.epub cover.jpg and 11 other files
+add Calibre/Ars Technica [dim., 03 nov. 2013] (645)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Ars Technica [dim., 03 nov. 2013] (645)/Ars Technica [dim., 03 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (647)/Cyberpresse [lun., 04 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (647)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Ars Technica [sam., 02 nov. 2013] (642)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Ars Technica [sam., 02 nov. 2013] (642)/Ars Technica [sam., 02 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Democracy now! [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (649)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Democracy now! [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (649)/Democracy now! [lun., 04 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/xkcd [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (646)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/xkcd [lun., 04 nov. 2013] (646)/xkcd [lun., 04 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [dim., 03 nov. 2013] (644)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [dim., 03 nov. 2013] (644)/Cyberpresse [dim., 03 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [sam., 02 nov., 2013] (640)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [sam., 02 nov., 2013] (640)/Le Devoir [sam., 02 nov., 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [lun., 04 nov., 2013] (648)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [lun., 04 nov., 2013] (648)/Le Devoir [lun., 04 nov., 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [sam., 02 nov. 2013] (641)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Cyberpresse [sam., 02 nov. 2013] (641)/Cyberpresse [sam., 02 nov. 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [dim., 03 nov., 2013] (643)/cover.jpg (checksum...) ok
+add Calibre/Le Devoir [dim., 03 nov., 2013] (643)/Le Devoir [dim., 03 nov., 2013] - Calibre.epub (checksum...) [2013-11-04 22:43:01 EST] Committer: Committing changes to git
+ok
+(Recording state in git...)
+(Recording state in git...)
+04/Nov/2013:22:43:51 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:47:24 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:47:24 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:47:24 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:52:29 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:52:30 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:52:30 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:56:47 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+[2013-11-04 22:57:08 EST] Committer: Adding metadata.db-journal
+add metadata.db-journal (checksum...) [2013-11-04 22:57:08 EST] Committer: Committing changes to git
+[2013-11-04 22:57:09 EST] Committer: Adding metadata.db-journal metadata.db
+ok
+(Recording state in git...)
+(Recording state in git...)
+add metadata.db (checksum...) [2013-11-04 22:57:09 EST] Committer: Committing changes to git
+ok
+(Recording state in git...)
+(Recording state in git...)
+04/Nov/2013:22:57:12 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:57:15 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:57:18 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+04/Nov/2013:22:57:20 -0500 [Error#yesod-core] Unknown UUID @(yesod-core-1.2.4.2:Yesod.Core.Class.Yesod ./Yesod/Core/Class/Yesod.hs:485:5)
+"""]]
+
+> I wonder if this couldn't be related to [[cannot determine uuid for origin]], although in this case the remote is just not added to `.git/config`. --[[anarcat]]
+
+> This was fixed in commit 44e1524be53373ddbf28d643bedf5455433c2b2e
+> on Sep 29th. You should update. [[done]]
+>
+> (It also sounds like your repository on markov is for some reason not
+> able to push its git repository to marcos. You might need to fix
+> something in your setup to get syncing working) --[[Joey]]
+>
+> > Humm.. Weird. Upgrading fixes the crash, but `marcos` still sees only
+> > one repository. It sees some syncs going on from `unknown`, and when
+> > I click on that `unknown` link, I get to edit that repository, and
+> > it sees it as `here`. So I am not sure I understand what is going
+> > on here.
+> >
+> > (As for the repo on `markov`, it does sync properly:
+> >
+> > anarcat@desktop008:books$ git annex sync
+> > commit
+> > ok
+> > pull origin
+> > From anarc.at:/srv/books
+> > 3b4fa7b..c35b13e git-annex -> origin/git-annex
+> > ok
+> >
+> > Or rather - it doesn't fail. But it doesn't push!
+> >
+> > anarcat@desktop008:books$ git push
+> > Everything up-to-date
+> >
+> > Note that git on `marcos` is the 1.8.4 backport for some reason.
+> > I know that branch tracking changed with that release, maybe
+> > that's the problem? --[[anarcat]])
+> >
+> > > So yep, I confirm that even in 4.20131105-g8efdc1a, the webapp
+> > > doesn't find the `markov` remote properly, even though
+> > > `git annex status` can:
+> > >
+> > > $ git annex status
+> > > repository mode: direct
+> > > trusted repositories: 0
+> > > semitrusted repositories: 3
+> > > 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001 -- web
+> > > a75cbbf7-e055-423e-b375-443e0552c9e2 -- here (anarcat@marcos:/srv/books)
+> > > aa500f29-42d9-4777-ae02-4a2c3d47db44 -- anarcat@markov:~/books
+> > >
+> > > I see transfers happening, but they go to "unknown". The link is:
+> > >
+> > > http://127.0.0.1:56577/config/repository/edit/UUID%20%22aa500f29-42d9-4777-ae02-4a2c3d47db44%22?auth=...
+> > >
+> > > -- [[anarcat]]
+> > >
+> > > > I have filed this as a separate bug to close the discussion properly here, sorry for the noise. :) see [[bugs/remote_not_showing_up_in_webapp]] --[[anarcat]]