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+[[!toc]]
+
+### Please describe the problem.
+
+I get this error when trying to copy annexed files from my laptop to the bare repository on my server:
+
+ anarcat@angela:ohm2013$ git annex copy -t origin .
+ git-annex: cannot determine uuid for origin
+
+### What steps will reproduce the problem?
+
+Here's my setup:
+
+ * `angela`: regular git repository on my laptop (`angela`) where i ran `git annex init` and `git annex add`ed 4 big files (in `~anarcat/presentations/ohm2013`)
+ * `marcos-bare`: a bare git repository where i ran `git annex init` on a different server (`marcos`) (in `~anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git`)
+ * `marcos-checkout`: a checkout of the above repository on marcos (in `~anarcat/presentations/ohm2013`)
+
+I ran `git pull/push` everwhere in there, and still get the error.
+
+Remotes on all repos:
+
+ * `angela`: `origin anarcat.ath.cx:repos/presentations/ohm2013.git`
+ * `marcos-bare`: no remote
+ * `marcos-checkout`: `origin /home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git`
+
+Note that file added with `git annex addurl` on `marcos-checkout` properly gets propagated on `angela` once i do `git annex get` there.
+
+### What version of git-annex are you using? On what operating system?
+
+`angela` runs:
+
+[[!format txt """
+git-annex version: 4.20130730-ge59a8c6
+build flags: Assistant Webapp Pairing Testsuite S3 WebDAV Inotify DBus XMPP DNS
+local repository version: 3
+default repository version: 3
+supported repository versions: 3 4
+upgrade supported from repository versions: 0 1 2
+"""]]
+
+I was able to reproduce with the backport version too.
+
+I compiled it by hand from git.
+
+`marcos` runs:
+
+[[!format txt """
+git-annex version: 3.20120629
+local repository version: unknown
+default repository version: 3
+supported repository versions: 3
+upgrade supported from repository versions: 0 1 2
+"""]]
+
+### Please provide any additional information below.
+
+In addition, there's this error on `marcos-bare`:
+
+[[!format sh """
+anarcat@marcos:ohm2013.git$ git annex status -d
+supported backends: SHA256 SHA1 SHA512 SHA224 SHA384 SHA256E SHA1E SHA512E SHA224E SHA384E WORM URL
+supported remote types: git S3 bup directory rsync web hook
+trusted repositories: git ["--git-dir=/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git","show-ref","git-annex"]
+git ["--git-dir=/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git","show-ref","--hash","refs/heads/git-annex"]
+git ["--git-dir=/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git","log","refs/heads/git-annex..6063e958c02259a39b87d0f1dc44c9272c52df3f","--oneline","-n1"]
+git ["--git-dir=/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git","cat-file","--batch"]
+0
+semitrusted repositories: 4
+ 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001 -- web
+ 5868f840-02e7-11e3-94e9-9b3701bd28bb -- marcos-checkout
+ aafdd242-02e7-11e3-bb6a-6f16a5c6103e -- here (marcos-bare)
+ befc3057-d23d-4312-843a-0645e93107d8 -- angela
+untrusted repositories: 0
+dead repositories: 0
+available local disk space: 14 gigabytes (+1 megabyte reserved)
+local annex keys: 0
+local annex size: 0 bytes
+known annex keys: git ["--git-dir=/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git","ls-files","--cached","-z","--","/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git"]
+fatal: '/home/anarcat/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git' is outside repository
+0
+known annex size: 0 bytes
+bloom filter size: 16 mebibytes (0% full)
+backend usage:
+"""]]
+
+### Workaround!
+
+I found that I could succesfully push to the non-bare repo, like this:
+
+[[!format txt """
+anarcat@angela:ohm2013$ git remote add marcos-checkout ssh://anarcat.ath.cx/~/presentations/ohm2013
+anarcat@angela:ohm2013$ git fetch marcos-checkout
+From ssh://anarcat.ath.cx/~/presentations/ohm2013
+ * [new branch] git-annex -> marcos-checkout/git-annex
+ * [new branch] master -> marcos-checkout/master
+anarcat@angela:ohm2013$ git annex copy AlerteRouge.webm --to marcos-checkout
+copy AlerteRouge.webm (checking marcos-checkout...) (to marcos-checkout...)
+SHA256E-s138903105--a69db8d4c3835b03bdb08cb1cccfde5c76f586f934d63283694e7101b25352a8.webm
+[...]
+"""]]
+
+It seems that git-annex doesn't like bare repos at all...
+
+### Fix
+
+It seems that my problem was specifically related to [[bare repositories]], which are not well supported historically. There has been other reports of problems in the past, which I missed in my search because symptoms were different:
+
+ * [[bugs/bare git repos]]
+ * [[forum/get and copy with bare repositories]]
+
+Yet while I was able to do `git annex get --all` *from* the `marcos-bare` repository, I still get the original error message while trying to `git annex copy -t marcos-bare`, which is pretty annoying considering the original files are on my laptop, which is not publicly accessible. So I basically need to add the `marcos-checkout` as a remote, copy there, then get from the bare repo to make this work, which is a rather convoluted way of doing things. :)
+
+It seems to me a proper fix would be to be able to `git annex copy --to marcos-bare`. Thanks!
+
+Update: it seems te problem was that I had the following in my `.git/config`:
+
+ [remote "marcos-bare"]
+ url = ssh://anarcat.ath.cx/~/repos/presentations/ohm2013.git
+ annex-ignore = true
+ fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/marcos-bare/*
+
+I have *no* idea how that `annex-ignore` got there, but that was the root of my problem. Removing it it allowed my to do `git annex copy`. I really don't know how this happened, but I guess this is [[done]], although I believe this error message is really confusing and could be improved. --[[anarcat]]
+
+> `annex-ignore` is set automatically by git-annex if it fails to query
+> the uuid of a remote the first time it tries to use it. It will say
+> when it does that. The assumption
+> is that a remote whose uuid cannot be looked up is a git remote
+> on a server w/o git-annex support (like github) and it would be annoying
+> to constantly be trying and failing to get that uuid.
+>
+> So, I've improved the error message. Now when annex-ignore is set
+> for a remote, the error you got will mention that.
+>
+> (Also, there is not currently anything lacking in git-annex's support
+> for bare repositories.) --[[Joey]]