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=20 Re: nda advice from frienda?

Posted by: "Mark Stephe= n Meadows" mark@markmeadows.com   markstephenmeadows=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:21 am (PST)




yeah, what mike said!

an NDA is a bit of a class demarcation, like souris said (well,
or didn't, kinda). and who wants to spend their time chasing a
breached NDA, anyway? dirty lollipop syndrome!

FrieNDA. Friend + NDA. personal + legal. it's a double-trust
factor. but, really, in the real world, the friend part is far
more important, more valuable, more interesting, and more
enforceable. an NDA is just a patch-job for a reputation. i
think someone else kinda said that, too.

i've had dozens of m/NDAs signed in my day (at Construct, then
Headcase / E&S), and i never felt really good about it. i've
signed as many and none of them ever protected an idea i didn't
already know about. in the end they're a waste of time.

i like to think that a good idea is one that no one else on the
planet could implement.



Mike Kuniavsky wrote: I'm of the opinion that if someone I'm
talking to is assuring me that they're totally trustworthy, then
they should put a ring on it and sign the NDA without blinking.
An NDA isn't a patent. It's just an agreement that says that the
signer won't reveal what you told them to a potential
competitor. That's it. You can put a time limit on it, say three
months. Anyone, in any industry, should be able to keep from
telling a competitor about your idea for THREE MONTHS. If they
can't, or can't guarantee that, then they're probably not
someone you should be talking to. Conversely, when someone says
"I can't tell you anything about my idea until you sign an NDA,"=
I call bullshit on that, too. You can tell me something. You can
tell me just about everything except for what your secret sauce
is, and that'll get me close enough to knowing whether I even
want to know what the secret sauce is. In either case, I say
absolutes kill trust. They kill trust when someone says that
they're not willing to meet you even an inch of the way (aka
sign a simple NDA) and they kill when someone says that they
can't trust you at all until they have an iron clad guarantee of
confidentiality (which an NDA isn't, so that's bullshit, too).
Finally, I have never heard of someone being sued for breach of
NDA. It's just not important enough in the larger scheme of
things. It IS important, however, as a small trust-building step
at the right point in a discussion. On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Kim
Pallister wrote: VC's are in this camp too. Sent
from my SpacePhone On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:46 PM, "L. Souris
Hong-Porretta" <so= uris@hustlerofculture.com>
<mailto:souris@hustlero= fculture.com> wrote: Depending
on who you are talking to, they might not sign an NDA at all. I
know that when we had our game studio, the publishers would
not sign NDAs to talk to us. This happens in a lot of creative
studios here in Hollywood too. I also know that at EMV we NEVER
or well, RARELY signed NDAs. Our job is to listen to
pitches ALL DAY LONG and I can tell you that 99 out of 100 times
we were being pitched something that was related-to or an
iteration of something else we'd heard before. We didn't
sign NDAs as standard practice, bc we didn't need TOM, DICK, or
KYOUNG coming back to sue us if we moved forward with one
of the companies and they decided we "stole" their idea. We also<= br> relied on our reputations so it wasn't in our interest to
tell everyone about everything we ever heard. Everybody knows
I'm a fucking big mouth, but everyone also knows, your
abortion-serious-secret is safe with me. It really depends on
what the project is and whom you're discussing it with. My two
cents. xosourisxo On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Kyoung Kim
wrote: hi frienda, was wondering in your practices, when do
you think is the "right" time to present an nda (in approaching developers, contractors, investors, etc.).? may seem like a dumb
question, but well, you know. thanks, kyoung **** souris
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=20 Re: nda advice from frienda?

Posted by: "Brian Wane"= bpwane@smerc.com   bpwane2=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:41 am (PST)



On 1/19/2011 7:13 PM, christian svanes kolding wrote:
>
> it should also be added that NDA or no NDA, if you think someone stole=
> your idea, you'd better be serious about it and understand that, right=
> or wrong, there will be consequences.
>
> no one in any of the creative industries likes to be accused of
> stealing. thus, i would imagine that in 99% of the cases, people would=
> rather avoid having anything to do with someone who starts pointing > fingers - even if the accuser is justified.
>
We have our ideas taken all the time after an NDA is signed, usually at the request of the other party. It isn't worth pursuing. Bringing it up means that relationship is over. You may ask, well, if they took your
idea or part of it then why would you work with them again? To which I
respond- they like your ideas and will probably fund one in the future. This has been my experience at least.

Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags unite!<= br>
>

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=20 Re: nda advice from frienda?

Posted by: "Chris Hecke= r" checker@d6.com

Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:59 am (PST)




> Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags > unite!

Don't worry, you guys massively outnumber us!

Chris

On 2011/01/20 07:41, Brian Wane wrote:
> On 1/19/2011 7:13 PM, christian svanes kolding wrote:
>
>> it should also be added that NDA or no NDA, if you think someone s= tole
>> your idea, you'd better be serious about it and understand that, r= ight
>> or wrong, there will be consequences.
>>
>> no one in any of the creative industries likes to be accused of >> stealing. thus, i would imagine that in 99% of the cases, people w= ould
>> rather avoid having anything to do with someone who starts pointin= g
>> fingers - even if the accuser is justified.
>>
> We have our ideas taken all the time after an NDA is signed, usually a= t
> the request of the other party. It isn't worth pursuing. Bringing it u= p
> means that relationship is over. You may ask, well, if they took your<= br> > idea or part of it then why would you work with them again? To which I=
> respond- they like your ideas and will probably fund one in the future= .
> This has been my experience at least.
>
> Yes, I eye rolled at Hecker's comment, too. NDA signing douche bags un= ite!
>
>
>
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>
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> Email: bpwane@smerc.com= <mailto:bpwane@smerc.com= >
> Phone: (718) 486-0002
>
> Keep a look out for our new game Hercules: Curse of the Hydra
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=20 Re: nda advice from frienda?

Posted by: "Elizabeth G= oodman" egoodman@confectious.net   esg224=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)



I get asked to sign NDAs all the time before people consent to be
interviewed for my (totally academic, not gonna be published for
a year) dissertation. I see it as essentially an ass-covering
move.

On the one hand, I don't take them all that seriously. Because,
as Mike says, no one ever gets sued for breach of NDA.
Instead, the NDA for my interviewees is a way for mid-level
creatives to protect themselves against any kind of douchey
retaliation by their companies' legal departments. Or a way
for principals, partners, or C-level people to let me know
that they're personally okay with giving me sensitive
information about clients or vendors, but that it matters to
their companies. Because, really, there are two outcomes if I
violate the NDA: (1) no one will ever find out it was me,
because anything people are willing to tell me in a casual
interview is something that's already common knowledge among
tens, if not hundreds of other potentially indiscreet
blabbers or (2) I'll gain a reputation for being
untrustworthy and people will stop giving me sensitive info.

On the other hand, I take them very seriously. NDAs are just a
way to confirm that you, the signer, are outside an
organizational boundary, and that you are getting privileged
access to something that would usually stay within that
boundary. Verbal or paper-based requests have about the same
level of importance in terms of signalling one's
expectations. You could argue (and I would, when I'm being
all academic) that it is the NDA that makes the
organizational boundary, not the other way around. So it's
important for me to know that the person I'm talking to wants
to erect some boundaries.

But then, I'm not in the game industry. Or in marketing. Or in
entertainment. I do interactive product and service design and
strategy. As Mike suggests, different industries have really
different assumptions about the relationship between
organizations and information sharing. Some industries,
looking at the responses on this list, use NDAs (or "keep a
secret" language) to create stricter boundary lines than
others.

Liz

On 1/19/11 4:54 PM, Mike Kuniavsky wrote:
I'm of the opinion that if someone I'm talking to is
assuring me that
they're totally trustworthy, then they should put a ring
on it and sign
the NDA without blinking. An NDA isn't a patent. It's just
an agreement
that says that the signer won't reveal what you told them
to a potential
competitor. That's it. You can put a time limit on it, say
three months.
Anyone, in any industry, should be able to keep from
telling a competitor
about your idea for THREE MONTHS. If they can't, or can't
guarantee that,
then they're probably not someone you should be talking
to.

Conversely, when someone says "I can't tell you anything
about my
idea until you sign an NDA," I call bullshit on that, too.
You can tell me
something. You can tell me just about everything except
for what your
secret sauce is, and that'll get me close enough to
knowing whether I even
want to know what the secret sauce is.

In either case, I say absolutes kill trust. They kill
trust when someone
says that they're not willing to meet you even an inch of
the way (aka
sign a simple NDA) and they kill when someone says that
they can't trust
you at all until they have an iron clad guarantee of
confidentiality
(which an NDA isn't, so that's bullshit, too).

Finally, I have never heard of someone being sued for
breach of NDA. It's
just not important enough in the larger scheme of things.
It IS important,
however, as a small trust-building step at the right point
in a
discussion.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Kim Pallister wrote:

>
>
> VC's are in this camp too.
>
> Sent from my SpacePhone
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:46 PM, "L. Souris
Hong-Porretta" <so= uris@hustlerofculture.com
<mailto:souris%40hustlerofculture.com> > w= rote:
>
>
>
> Depending on who you are talking to, they might not
sign an NDA at all. I know that when we had our
> game studio, the publishers would not sign NDAs to
talk to us. This happens in a lot of creative
> studios here in Hollywood too. I also know that at
EMV we NEVER or well, RARELY signed NDAs. Our job
> is to listen to pitches ALL DAY LONG and I can tell
you that 99 out of 100 times we were being
> pitched something that was related-to or an iteration
of something else we'd heard before. We didn't
> sign NDAs as standard practice, bc we didn't need
TOM, DICK, or KYOUNG coming back to sue us if we
> moved forward with one of the companies and they
decided we "stole" their idea. We also relied on our
> reputations so it wasn't in our interest to tell
everyone about everything we ever heard.
>
>
> Everybody knows I'm a fucking big mouth, but everyone
also knows, your abortion-serious-secret is safe with
> me.
>
> It really depends on what the project is and whom
you're discussing it with.
>
> My two cents.
>
> xosourisxo
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Kyoung Kim wrote:
>
>
>
> hi frienda,
>
> was wondering in your practices, when do you think is
the "right" time to present an nda (in approaching
> developers, contractors, investors, etc.).?
> may seem like a dumb question, but well, you know.
>
> thanks,
> kyoung
>
>
>
> ****
>
> souris hong-porretta
> 3101 5th street #5
> santa monica, ca 90405
>
> 310.500.7870 mobile
>
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=20 Re: summer intern - know anyone?

Posted by: "Elizabeth G= oodman" egoodman@confectious.net   esg224=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:12 pm (PST)



I saw this job posting at Berkeley, actually. Are you going to be
actively working with the intern? If you are, I will forward it
around even more widely to students (like at CCA) who do great UX
work but aren't, ummm, the traditional Qualcomm hires.

L.

On 1/19/11 4:32 PM, jeeparksf wrote:
hi all,

my company is hiring a summer intern and i thought this
group may know of some good peeps. it's user experience
focused. i've already sent it out to uc berkeley,
stanford, and iit, but pls forward it as you see fit.

https://jobs.qualcomm.com/public= /jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=3D1\
884530&page=3DjobSearch
<https://jobs.qualcomm.com/pub= lic/jobDetails.xhtml?requisitionId=3D\
1884530&page=3DjobSearch>

thanks,
jee


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Posted by: "Souris Hong= -Porretta" souris@hustlerofculture.com   souris_hong=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:02 pm (PST)



While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a <= br> message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing down =
the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...

Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or
error message before (THANKS)!

This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:

Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF1= 90CE1D

Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
14=3Dpage fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)
0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000-&g= t;0x56dbbfff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 9200326539= 3829
loaded kexts:
com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 919339499958= 42
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
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com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10<= br> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.BootCache 30.4
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
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=20 Re: Apple Reboot

Posted by: "Daniel Terd= iman" daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net   jschooldan=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:10 pm (PST)



Assuming that you're all backed up, I wouldn't worry about it.
Occasionally, Macs will do the old bombshell crash. They usually recover.
Once you're back up and running, you might want to consider repairing
disk permissions (that's always a good thing to do, anyway). You do that by going into your Applications folder, then choosing Utilities, then
choosing Disk Utility, and then Repair permissions.

I think you'll be fine. Hopefully, you're properly backed up.

Daniel

On 1/20/11 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
>
> While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a
> message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing = down
> the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
>
> Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or > error message before (THANKS)!
>
> This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
>
> Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
> Panics Since Last Report: 1
> Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
>
> Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
> panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
> 14=3Dpage fault, registers:
> CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
> EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
> CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
> EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
> Error code: 0x00000000
>
> Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)<= br> > 0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
> 0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
> 0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
> 0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
> 0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
> 0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)<= br> > 0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
> 0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
> 0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
> 0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
> 0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
> 0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
> 0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
> 0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
> No mapping exists for frame pointer
> Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
> Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x5= 6dbbfff
>
> BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
>
> Mac OS version:
> 9L31a
>
> Kernel version:
> Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
> root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
> System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
>
> System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
> unloaded kexts:
> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003= 265393829
> loaded kexts:
> com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 9193394= 9995842
> com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
> com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.= 9f10
> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
> com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
> com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
> com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
> com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
> com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
> com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
> com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
> com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
> com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
> com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
> com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
> com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
> com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
> com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
> com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
> com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
> com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
> com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
> com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
> com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
> com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
> com.apple.BootCache 30.4
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
> com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
> com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
> com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
> com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
> com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
> com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
> com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
> com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
> com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
> com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
> com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
>
>
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=20 Re: Apple Reboot

Posted by: "Wiley Wiggi= ns" weevil@wileywiggins.com   wiley_wiggins=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:21 pm (PST)



You had a Kernel Panic. It can be caused by hardware or by the System= , but rarely by an App.
Disk permissions resets are meaningless unless you are having an actual per= missions issue. Same with the voodoo 'Pram Zap'.
Either run -fsck n your drive in single user mode, or boot from your OS dis= c and run the actual disc repair, which looks at the file structure.
Unless it happens again you are probably fine.

(Sorry, Ex Applecare agent).

On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Daniel Terdiman wrote:

> Assuming that you're all backed up, I wouldn't worry about it. Occasio= nally, Macs will do the old bombshell crash. They usually recover.
>
> Once you're back up and running, you might want to consider repairing = disk permissions (that's always a good thing to do, anyway). You do that by= going into your Applications folder, then choosing Utilities, then choosin= g Disk Utility, and then Repair permissions.
>
> I think you'll be fine. Hopefully, you're properly backed up.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 1/20/11 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
>
>>
>> While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a=
>> message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by press= ing down
>> the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...=
>>
>> Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen = or
>> error message before (THANKS)!
>>
>> This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
>>
>> Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
>> Panics Since Last Report: 1
>> Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
>>
>> Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
>> panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type >> 14=3Dpage fault, registers:
>> CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660=
>> EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc=
>> CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe=
>> EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010 >> Error code: 0x00000000
>>
>> Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on sta= ck)
>> 0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
>> 0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
>> 0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
>> 0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
>> 0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
>> 0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8= d0)
>> 0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
>> 0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
>> 0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
>> 0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
>> 0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
>> 0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
>> 0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff) >> 0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
>> No mapping exists for frame pointer
>> Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
>> Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
>> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->= ;0x56dbbfff
>>
>> BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
>>
>> Mac OS version:
>> 9L31a
>>
>> Kernel version:
>> Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
>> root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
>> System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
>>
>> System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
>> unloaded kexts:
>> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 9= 2003265393829
>> loaded kexts:
>> com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
>> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 919= 33949995842
>> com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
>> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
>> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
>> com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
>> com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController = 2.1.9f10
>> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
>> com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
>> com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
>> com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
>> com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
>> com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
>> com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
>> com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
>> com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
>> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
>> com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
>> com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
>> com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
>> com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
>> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
>> com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
>> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
>> com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
>> com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
>> com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
>> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
>> com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
>> com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
>> com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
>> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
>> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
>> com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
>> com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
>> com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
>> com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
>> com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
>> com.apple.BootCache 30.4
>> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
>> com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10=
>> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
>> com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
>> com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
>> com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
>> com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
>> com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
>> com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
>> com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
>> com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
>> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
>> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
>> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
>> com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
>> com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
>> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
>> com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
>> com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
>> com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
>> com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
>> com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
>> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
>> com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
>> com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
>>
>
>

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Posted by: "Wiley Wiggi= ns" weevil@wileywiggins.com   wiley_wiggins=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:23 pm (PST)



How to run disc repair:

http://support.apple.co= m/kb/HT1782

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Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:24 pm (PST)



Sorry, I meant this one:

http://support.apple.co= m/kb/TS1417

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Posted by: "Rama Gottfr= ied" rama.gottfried@gmail.com   ramagottfried=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:25 pm (PST)



that's a kernel panic - i've been seeing that regularly working with = the adruino FTDI drivers in maxMSP. I wouldn't worry too much about it unl= ess you had some unsaved important documents open.

I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port and the= other device. If it happens every time you try to update your GPS softwar= e - try switching the USB port you're using... but yeah, it sucks - and is = likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin is using (like the iffy FTDI d= rivers that arduino uses(used)).

On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:

> While updating my GARMIN GPS software, my screen hazed over with a > message that said, "you have to reboot your computer by pressing = down
> the button for a couple of seconds" or something like that...
>
> Anything I should be concerned about? I've NEVER seen this screen or <= br> > error message before (THANKS)!
>
> This is the error log that it sent to APPLE:
>
> Interval Since Last Panic Report: 41189704 sec
> Panics Since Last Report: 1
> Anonymous UUID: 804A117E-D4C2-4184-A33D-7E9EF190CE1D
>
> Thu Jan 20 14:57:23 2011
> panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x56db29b6, type
> 14=3Dpage fault, registers:
> CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x42dda000, CR3: 0x018fd000, CR4: 0x00000660
> EAX: 0xffffffff, EBX: 0x0e06e880, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0000effc
> CR2: 0x42dda000, EBP: 0x56d4b8f8, ESI: 0x42dcb004, EDI: 0x00003bfe
> EFL: 0x00010203, EIP: 0x56db29b6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00040010
> Error code: 0x00000000
>
> Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)<= br> > 0x56d4b6d8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56d4b70c 0x13355c 0x0)
> 0x56d4b728 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x56db29b6 0xe 0x469248)
> 0x56d4b808 : 0x1a1713 (0x56d4b820 0x246 0x56d4b8f8 0x56db29b6)
> 0x56d4b818 : 0x56db29b6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
> 0x56d4b8f8 : 0x56db2bdc (0x0 0x56d4b92c 0x0 0x77fe0)
> 0x56d4b948 : 0x56db3444 (0xffffffff 0x56d4b98c 0x56d4b988 0x5272a8d0)<= br> > 0x56d4b9a8 : 0x56db1281 (0xe06e880 0x80 0x56d4b9d8 0x1a9ad9)
> 0x56d4ba28 : 0x56db13eb (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
> 0x56d4ba98 : 0x56db711c (0xe06e880 0x100000 0x0 0xe067ec4)
> 0x56d4bad8 : 0x1f536e (0x56d4bdac 0x56d4bb34 0x0 0x0)
> 0x56d4bdd8 : 0x1f7c65 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
> 0x56d4be38 : 0x1e7e83 (0x78b3a30 0x56d4be78 0xe067ec4 0x0)
> 0x56d4bf78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x6ebde90 0xe067dc0 0xe067e04 0xffffffff)
> 0x56d4bfc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0xd6d0f80 0x0 0x1a40b5 0xd6d0f80)
> No mapping exists for frame pointer
> Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb080b688
> Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs(1.5.5)@0x56daf000->0x5= 6dbbfff
>
> BSD process name corresponding to current thread: mds
>
> Mac OS version:
> 9L31a
>
> Kernel version:
> Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009;
> root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
> System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
>
> System uptime in nanoseconds: 92031377355481
> unloaded kexts:
> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 92003= 265393829
> loaded kexts:
> com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.52
> com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last loaded 9193394= 9995842
> com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.5.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
> com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.= 9f10
> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.0.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.8.7
> com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
> com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
> com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
> com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
> com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
> com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
> com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
> com.apple.driver.NVSMU 1.1.7
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.1d1
> com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
> com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
> com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.7.4f1
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 189.35
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 1.1.2
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.3
> com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 366.91.21
> com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
> com.apple.nvenet 1.0.54
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
> com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
> com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
> com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
> com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
> com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
> com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
> com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
> com.apple.BootCache 30.4
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
> com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
> com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.1d1
> com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
> com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
> com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
> com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
> com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
> com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
> com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
> com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
> com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
> com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
> com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
> com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
> com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
> com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
> com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
> com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
>
>

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=20 Re: Apple Reboot

Posted by: "Wiley Wiggi= ns" weevil@wileywiggins.com   wiley_wiggins=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:27 pm (PST)



Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work w= ith a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used FTDI. I'm= glad Arduino is getting away from it.

> I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port an= d the other device. If it happens every time you try to update your GPS so= ftware - try switching the USB port you're using... but yeah, it sucks - an= d is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin is using (like the iffy F= TDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).

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Posted by: "L. Souris H= ong-Porretta" souris@hustlerofculture.com   souris_hong=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:21 pm (PST)



Thanks SO MUCH, dudes.

D, I followed your instructions and everything looks OK. THANK YOU for spelling it all out, cause I'm a fucking numbnut these days and can't
find shit anywhere on this Apple computer (like find your so-and-so-
utility-so-and-so).

I have everything backed up on two external hard drives now (thanks
Julian, Neb, and DJ)! That said, I didn't lose any work.

THANKS, again.

xosourisxo

On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Wiley Wiggins wrote:

Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work
with a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used
FTDI. I'm glad Arduino is getting away from it.

> I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB port <= br> > and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update > your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but > yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garmin =
> is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).

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Posted by: "Daniel Terd= iman" daniel.terdiman@earthlink.net   jschooldan=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:35 pm (PST)



As Wiley pointed out, the repair disk permissions thing almost certai= nly
didn't help with this particular situation. But it's always good to run that once in awhile anyway.

Glad things are looking better now.

D

On 1/20/11 4:21 PM, L. Souris Hong-Porretta wrote:
>
> Thanks SO MUCH, dudes.
>
>
> D, I followed your instructions and everything looks OK. THANK YOU for=
> spelling it all out, cause I'm a fucking numbnut these days and can't =
> find shit anywhere on this Apple computer (like find your
> so-and-so-utility-so-and-so).
>
> I have everything backed up on two external hard drives now (thanks > Julian, Neb, and DJ)! That said, I didn't lose any work.
>
> THANKS, again.
>
> xosourisxo
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Wiley Wiggins wrote:
>
>
>
> Oh god, FTDI. I actually had a kernel panic once too trying to work > with a DMX to USB converter for controlling stage lights that used > FTDI. I'm glad Arduino is getting away from it.
>
>> I think this is cause by some miscommunication between the USB por= t
>> and the other device. If it happens every time you try to update =
>> your GPS software - try switching the USB port you're using... but=
>> yeah, it sucks - and is likely due to an iffy USB driver that Garm= in
>> is using (like the iffy FTDI drivers that arduino uses(used)).
>
>
>
>
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=20 APPLE APPS and GOATS

Posted by: "Souris Hong= -Porretta" souris@hustlerofculture.com   souris_hong=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:26 pm (PST)



Welcome to 2007, my friends!

DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to
check out everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT,
when I went to access the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for
APPLE APPS, as many times as I know others have inquired about it.
Normally, I'd go through ALL MY FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the
answers, but with the recent crash of the server I was hosted on, I
ended up losing thousands of my emails (I also deleted my apple
account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages so this really
screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.

WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can
you send me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the MISCELLANEOUS folder.

Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT
(greatest of all time frieNDA posts). Is it true that we only have ONE POST that qualifies for GOAT status?!

THANKS in advance!

xosourisxo

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=20 Re: APPLE APPS and GOATS

Posted by: "Jeannette H= arshbarger" jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com   jeannetteagogo=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:31 pm (PST)



Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT fol= der?=C2=A0

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Souris Hong-Porretta <souris@hustlerofculture.com> wrote:

From: Souris Hong-Porretta <souris@hustlerofculture.com>
Subject: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
To: frieNDA@yahoogroups.c= om
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 4:26 PM

=C2=A0

Welcome to 2007, my friends!
DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to check out= everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT, when I went to ac= cess the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for APPLE APPS, as many time= s as I know others have inquired about it. Normally, I'd go through ALL MY = FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the answers, but with the recent crash of= the server I was hosted on, I ended up losing thousands of my emails (I al= so deleted my apple account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages = so this really screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.<= br> WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can you sen= d me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the MISCELLANEO= US folder.
Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT (greatest o= f all time frieNDA posts). Is it true that we only have ONE POST that quali= fies for GOAT status?!
THANKS in advance!
xosourisxo

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Posted by: "L. Souris H= ong-Porretta" souris@hustlerofculture.com   souris_hong=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:34 pm (PST)



Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a HIGHLANDER deal?!

And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube
for that eye socket thingamagiggy.

On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:

Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT
folder?

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Posted by: "David Jacob= s" djacobs@gmail.com   pdx_davidj=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:44 pm (PST)



"Or is it a HIGHLANDER deal?!"

I just think there's nothing close yet. And I read most of the mails (not this NDA thread, though).

David

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:34 PM, L. Souris Hong-Porretta <
souris@hustlerofcultu= re.com> wrote:

>
>
> Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a
> HIGHLANDER deal?!
>
> And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube = for
> that eye socket thingamagiggy.
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
>
>
>
> Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT fold= er?
>
>
>
>

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Posted by: "Jeannette H= arshbarger" jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com   jeannetteagogo=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:44 pm (PST)



Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER PE= RSON when he got his iPhone.

Here are the ones I use the most:

YELP - Yeah, you can type in "tamales" or "nail salon" = or "book store" or "coffee" and hit the "close to = my location" button...which will pull up a list and then allow you to = click a button which will bring up a map with directions to the business.= =C2=A0 I use this ALL the time.=C2=A0=C2=A0

SHAZAM - Listens to songs and tells you what they are.=C2=A0 You can only a= sk for 5 songs a month unless you pay to upgrade ($3.99 i think... I paid).= =C2=A0

NIKE+
GPS - You don't even need the Nike pod thingee for your shoes or the fancy= Nike shoes to use this app.=C2=A0 It tells you how fast you go, it maps yo= ur route and uploads your stats to Nike.com so that you can see how far you= 've run / power walked in a week/month/year.=C2=A0
THE BEST thing about it is that Tracy Jordan roots for me by saying "t= hat's my GURL!" and other fun things when I'm done.=C2=A0 You can also= sync with FB and when someone gives you a thumbs up or comments while you'= re running it CHEERS over your music.=C2=A0 Who likes to run?=C2=A0 Not me.= =C2=A0 Who likes to run when it's made fun?=C2=A0 I guess me.=C2=A0

WORDS WITH FRIENDS:
Scrabble with strangers or your friends... play at your leisure... you can = play like 15 game simultaneously too, I think.=C2=A0

INSTAGRAM:
It's like flickr with dumb hipstamatic type processing and you can "sh= are" a photo which posts it in a stream that everyone that's following= you can see.=C2=A0 A bunch of us are on it.=C2=A0 To quote Jason - "H= ey Instagram... CAT PHOTO, CAT PHOTO, CAT PHOTO.... How do YOU like it?&quo= t;=C2=A0 I keep looking for cats to photograph to share with Jason, but I d= on't ever see any....

FB
It's nice to just look at / post / and get notified of FB activity on a pho= ne app without having to log onto a computer.=C2=A0

KAYAK
Research travel on the go

INCEPTION:
Fun...creepy....fun and creepy.=C2=A0 You'll need headphones with a bu= ilt in microphone tho...

REDBOX:
I can reserve a $1 movie from my neighborhood kiosk (the 7-11 around the co= rner) and pick it up later before it runs out.=C2=A0 Popular titles run out= sometimes.=C2=A0 When you just don't want to wait for damned Netflix to co= me in the mail.=C2=A0

AIM:
You know when you IM me sometimes and I'm slow in responding?=C2=A0 I'm usi= ng the mobile version of IM and am texting with one finger.=C2=A0

MOONPHASE:
Cuz I like to know the phase of the moon...

FARECOMPARE
Also for travel.=C2=A0 Sends you alerts when a price drops or goes up on yo= ur watch list.=C2=A0 Self explanatory, really.

EBAY:
As if I don't have enough of a problem with Ebay...

TWEETDECK
Lets you follow your stream, has @replies in a sep column, DMs in another c= olumn and any lists you may follow in OTHER columns.=C2=A0 Good if you're s= earching for a certain keyword too (like #bedbugs )=C2=A0

TRIP ADVISOR
Mobile app - same as site

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Souris Hong-Porretta <souris@hustlerofculture.com> wrote:

From: Souris Hong-Porretta <souris@hustlerofculture.com>
Subject: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
To: frieNDA@yahoogroups.c= om
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 4:26
PM

=C2=A0

Welcome to 2007, my friends!
DANIEL TERDIMAN has loaned me his spare 32GB iTouch and I want to check out= everything you guys have been raving about. EXCEPT THAT, when I went to ac= cess the frieNDA files, there was NO SUCH file for APPLE APPS, as many time= s as I know others have inquired about it. Normally, I'd go through ALL MY = FRIENDA EMAIL and search and find the answers, but with the recent crash of= the server I was hosted on, I ended up losing thousands of my emails (I al= so deleted my apple account not knowing it would wipe out my mail messages = so this really screwed up my back up / rebooting process). BLAH BLAH BLAH.<= br> WHO, I said... WHO on this board has asked for the apps before? Can you sen= d me the suggested list and I'll add it to a master file in the MISCELLANEO= US folder.
Also, Wiley's DEFENSE OF THE IPAD is the sole entry to the GOAT (greatest o= f all time frieNDA
posts). Is it true that we only have ONE POST that qualifies for GOAT stat= us?!
THANKS in advance!
xosourisxo

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Posted by: "Jeannette H= arshbarger" jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com   jeannetteagogo=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:48 pm (PST)



http:= //groups.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/14301

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jeannette Harshbarger <jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jeannette Harshbarger <jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
To: frieNDA@yahoogroups.c= om
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:44 PM

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Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER PERSON w= hen he got his iPhone.

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Posted by: "L. Souris H= ong-Porretta" souris@hustlerofculture.com   souris_hong=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:07 pm (PST)



awesome thanks! that didn't pull up in YAHOO SEARCH for me (that thin= g
fucking sucks)!

Christina... tsk. tsk. TSK!

On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:

http://grou= ps.yahoo.com/group/frieNDA/message/14301

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jeannette Harshbarger <jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

From: Jeannette Harshbarger <jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [frieNDA] APPLE APPS and GOATS
To: frieNDA@yahoogroups.c= om
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:44 PM

Christina was the person that asked for ONE APP RECOMMENDATION PER
PERSON when he got his iPhone.

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Posted by: "Kim Pallist= er" kim_pallister@hotmail.com   kpallist2=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:08 pm (PST)



Reeder + Instapaper FT*MF*W! Though I use both 90% of the time on ipa= d. Still nice to have both on ipad & iPhone.

I like the Chase photo-check deposit app.

Shazam, pandora, snaptell, wikiamo, Netflix all get used a lot

Sent from my SpacePhone

On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:34 PM, "L. Souris Hong-Porretta" <souris@hustlerofculture.com= > wrote:

> Yes. DJ set it up. But there's gotta be MORE entries?! Or is it a HIGH= LANDER deal?!
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> And I think the only thing Juster nominated himself for was more lube = for that eye socket thingamagiggy.
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> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jeannette Harshbarger wrote:
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> Didn't DavidJ or Juster or cHecker nominate themself for the GOAT fold= er?
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Posted by: "Jeannette H= arshbarger" jeannetteagogo@yahoo.com   jeannetteagogo=20

Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:46 pm (PST)



Maybe you can follow the entire string of answers from the link at th= e bottom of this email...

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, christian svanes kolding <christian@farmfreshfilms.com> wrote:
From: christian svanes kolding <christian@farmfreshfilms.com>
Subject: [frieNDA] iphone apps
To: frieNDA@yahoogroups.c= om
Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:54 AM

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esteemed members of the board, now that we've upgraded to the iphone, i pre= sent you with the time-honoured questions:

what is your favourite iphone app? and why is it your favourite?

please limit your response to only one app.

thank you.

humbly submitted,

csk

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

christian svanes kolding

christian@christian svaneskolding. com

+45 26 36 34 70

+1 310 848 7310

ichat: christiansvanes (text first, please)

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