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+(************************************************************************)
+(*         *   The Coq Proof Assistant / The Coq Development Team       *)
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+(************************************************************************)
+
+(* (c) Copyright 2006-2016 Microsoft Corporation and Inria.                  *)
+
+Require Import ssreflect.
+Require Import ssrbool TestSuite.ssr_mini_mathcomp.
+(* div fintype finfun path bigop. *)
+
+Axiom daemon : False. Ltac myadmit := case: daemon.
+
+Lemma big_load R (K K' : R -> Type) idx op I r (P : pred I) F :
+  let s := \big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i in
+  K s * K' s -> K' s.
+Proof. by move=> /= [_]. Qed.
+Arguments big_load [R] K [K' idx op I r P F].
+
+Section Elim1.
+
+Variables (R : Type) (K : R -> Type) (f : R -> R).
+Variables (idx : R) (op op' : R -> R -> R).
+
+Hypothesis Kid : K idx.
+
+Ltac ASSERT1 := match goal with |- (K idx) => myadmit end.
+Ltac ASSERT2 K := match goal with |- (forall x1 : R, R ->
+    forall y1 : R, R -> K x1 -> K y1 -> K (op x1 y1)) => myadmit end.
+
+
+Lemma big_rec I r (P : pred I) F
+    (Kop : forall i x, P i -> K x -> K (op (F i) x)) :
+  K (\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i).
+Proof.
+elim/big_ind2: {-}_.
+  ASSERT1. ASSERT2 K. match goal with |- (forall i : I, is_true (P i) -> K (F i)) => myadmit end. Undo 4.
+elim/big_ind2: _ / {-}_.
+  ASSERT1. ASSERT2 K. match goal with |- (forall i : I, is_true (P i) -> K (F i)) => myadmit end. Undo 4.
+
+elim/big_rec2: (\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) op idx (F i))
+  / (\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i).
+  ASSERT1. match goal with |- (forall i : I, R -> forall y2 : R, is_true (P i) -> K y2 -> K (op (F i) y2)) => myadmit end. Undo 3.
+
+elim/(big_load (phantom R)): _.
+  Undo.
+
+Fail elim/big_rec2: {2}_.
+
+elim/big_rec2: (\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i)
+  / {1}(\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i).
+  Undo.
+
+elim/(big_load (phantom R)): _.
+Undo.
+
+Fail elim/big_rec2: _ / {2}(\big[op/idx]_(i <- r | P i) F i).
+Admitted.
+
+Definition morecomplexthannecessary A (P : A -> A -> Prop) x y := P x y.
+
+Lemma grab A (P : A -> A -> Prop) n m : (n = m) -> (P n n) -> morecomplexthannecessary A P n m.
+by move->.
+Qed.
+
+Goal forall n m, m + (n + m) = m + (n * 1 + m).
+Proof. move=> n m; elim/grab : (_ * _) / {1}n => //; exact: muln1. Qed.
+
+End Elim1.